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Quarter Midget Racing Digest: Sunday, January 2 2000 Volume 02 : Number 1175
Contents:
Race results form florida
RE: GX-160 manual
E-list discussion
Re: Thunder Chicken musings
Re: Thunder Chicken musings
Re: Thunder Chicken musings
Re: Thunder Chicken musings
Re: E-list discussion
Re: Race results form florida
Re: Race results form florida
Re: Race results form florida
Re: Race results form florida
Handler's Hangover Race?
Re: Race results form florida
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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 17:01:09 -0500
From: "dennis mccree"
Subject: Race results form florida
HEAVY GX 160 A MAIN
FAST TIME: LIZ HITE
1. PATRICK CONRAD
2. SCOTT SEITHER
3. TROY ATKINS
4. DEREK NEVILLE
5. NICK BAILEY****************
6. LIZ HITE
7. DUSTY COBB
8. MEGAN JENNINGS
9. BILL THOMAS
10. J.D. WILSON
11. KEVIN WYATT
Congratats to Nick Bailey From toledo..............wow look at all those
honda's.............200 honda's total
amazing!!!!!!
Dennis McCree
Toledo Quartermidgets Novice director
Driver Corey "The Rocket"McCree
Honda GX160 powered
www.thatsracin.koz.com/racing/nwoqmra2000
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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 17:12:15 -0500
From: "Greg Salisbury"
Subject: RE: GX-160 manual
Sorry Don, I was not clear on my post. My point is that Don Rector obviously
with 3 motors apart and they are all different, and he states that some
would not pass certain rule books( JSCA, Region 10's etc) why wait for the
manual? Get on the phone or e-mail and get it resolved.
I completely agree it should have as many eyes looking at it as possible.
Greg
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-qmidgets@moab.off-road.com
[mailto:owner-qmidgets@moab.off-road.com]On Behalf Of Don Roden
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2000 4:36 PM
To: qmidgets@QuarterMidgets.com
Subject: Re: GX-160 manual
Greg,
I'm not sure how Don Rector could provide a critique without seeing the
manual first... I don't even have a 160 or I won't be running a 160 this
year, but you surely must see the fustration of members waiting over a
year for this important document to be produced , and without a call to
the membership for input.
Glen of the Tech committee gets on this list, but I have never seen Dave
Preston offer any "open-door" to any of our members. If there was ever
any intent to ask for inputs or critiques, it hasn't been offered by
Dave Preston. ( no bias - just fact ).
Please....... BOD... post the GX-160 manual on the dot com site , so
that there CAN be some critiques before the national meeting.
This shouldn't bee so complicated and secretive...... What's the deal?
Don Roden
Greg Salisbury wrote:
>
> Don (Rector),
> however waiting untill its posted before you make your
> constructive critique doesn't make sense to me. Pick up the phone and >
call someone. Better yet send them an e-mail and they will call you
> back on QMA's dime. Lets work together.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Greg
> Given that I have
> three GX-160s apart right now and all of the above are significantly
> different, all out of the box engines, aren't you just a little concerned
> about being DQed for something that is totally out of your control? I am?
>
> Don Rector
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Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 21:47:54 -0600
From: Don Roden
Subject: E-list discussion
Wayne Kurlander wrote:
>
> Direct e-mail or phone call to individual(s) as first step, rather
> than a post to this site, can be much more constructive.
> For the paranoid, e-mail can be used as their "audit trail"
Wayne,
Who's to say this hasn't been tried before ? I don't see anything
wrong with airing out gripes or complaints on this list. Its a good way
of getting a feel of how all of the other members feel about a subject.
Or, a way of presenting your side of a dispute . If you present your
case with facts, that is hardly "mud-slinging". Obviously, I can't
speak for everybody, but if I were a member of the BOD, I would expect
and encourage criticism. If I did something wrong, or drug my feet on a
project, I would expect the members to remind me that I was elected to
be a producer, not a figurehead.
And to paraphrase : for the paranoid, direct contact (phone calls)
can be used as THEIR "un-audit trail". ie... "this conversation never
happened". (does this sound familiar ?) So, I think in a lot of
cases, posting a gripe on the list may be more conductive to a flow
of information. At least it's out in the open where there can be no
denying the contact or exchange and it does establish a time-line.
Don Roden
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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:20:35 EST
From: Dom59@aol.com
Subject: Re: Thunder Chicken musings
In a message dated 12/30/1999 6:02:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
TyypoMan@aol.com writes:
<< "What a piece of junk". ...... but then he admitted that it was the
"fastest piece of junk" that he has seen in a looooong time! >>
Kinda reminds me of the race where a really sorry looking bathtub Kurtis won.
The late Bob Arnolde was standing next to me when I commented, "What an ugly
car !". His reply, without even turning his head, "Hmmm. I've never seen a
bad looking winner !".
Pops
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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 00:35:38 EST
From: TyypoMan@aol.com
Subject: Re: Thunder Chicken musings
In a message dated 1/1/00 11:27:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, Dom59@aol.com
writes:
<< In a message dated 12/30/1999 6:02:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
TyypoMan@aol.com writes:
<< "What a piece of junk". ...... but then he admitted that it was the
"fastest piece of junk" that he has seen in a looooong time! >>
Kinda reminds me of the race where a really sorry looking bathtub Kurtis
won.
The late Bob Arnolde was standing next to me when I commented, "What an ugly
car !". His reply, without even turning his head, "Hmmm. I've never seen a
bad looking winner !".
Pops >>
We had dinner at RACE ROCK in Orlando, FL this evening and guess what two
cars are depicted in line drawing form on the Kid's Menu [which is titled
"The Quarter Midget Menu" .... Brad May's 90s something Stanley car and .....
the Thunder Chicken! As it turns out, the Thunder Chicken is not as old as
was first suspected. TC actually started out as a 1970 Rice car.
RRC
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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:14:33 -0700
From: "Melody A Crook"
Subject: Re: Thunder Chicken musings
Hey Pops,
You should have seen our first car - a Kurtis and it was an eyesore, but our
awesome driver produced a roomful of trophies with that ugly car :-)
Mel
- ----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2000 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: Thunder Chicken musings
> In a message dated 12/30/1999 6:02:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> TyypoMan@aol.com writes:
>
> << "What a piece of junk". ...... but then he admitted that it was the
> "fastest piece of junk" that he has seen in a looooong time! >>
>
> Kinda reminds me of the race where a really sorry looking bathtub Kurtis
won.
> The late Bob Arnolde was standing next to me when I commented, "What an
ugly
> car !". His reply, without even turning his head, "Hmmm. I've never seen a
> bad looking winner !".
>
> Pops
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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 02:05:12 EST
From: Dom59@aol.com
Subject: Re: Thunder Chicken musings
In a message dated 1/2/2000 1:15:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,
macrook@uswest.net writes:
<< Hey Pops,
You should have seen our first car - a Kurtis and it was an eyesore, but our
awesome driver produced a roomful of trophies with that ugly car :-)
Mel >>
Like Bob said, he'd never seen a bad looking winner. Way to go !!
Pops
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Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 07:47:34 -0500
From: Wayne Kurlander
Subject: Re: E-list discussion
Don Roden wrote:
>
Who's to say this hasn't been tried before ? I don't see anything
> wrong with airing out gripes or complaints on this list.
>
resp: "Who's to say --- " Not me. I'd be inclined to say (hope) it
has.
Don Roden wrote:
>
If you present your case with facts, that is hardly "mud-slinging".
resp: I agree. And the most important word in your typing above is
"if". "Facts" can get real interesting individualized definition at
times. I've been still "160 fence sitting", although still heavily
inclined to go this way. One item of focus for me is the concern around
what tolerance range the QMA manual must/should be set at due to the
"from the factory" observations. Seemingly the manual is about to hit.
There will obviously be tolerances posted within it. But for me there
remains a question around those who have posted items on this that say -
I have, or have seen X number of 160 Honda widgets, direct from the
factory, that indicate wide tolerance deflections that must be
considered. Now, try as I might, I've yet to see the post that says -
here's the Honda part in question, here's the tolerance range I/we have
measured and can verify at any time, and here's what this limited
sampling seems to indicate the 160 Manual toerance range ought to look
like. Getting these facts at this point would obviously be too late.
Don Roden wrote:
Obviously, I can't speak for everybody, but if I were a member of the
BOD ---
resp: No one can speak for everyone, and it is a fool who tries.
>
>
Don Roden wrote:
ie... "this conversation never happened". (does this sound familiar ?)
So, I think in a lot of cases, posting a gripe on the list may be more
conductive to a flow of information. At least it's out in the open
where there can be no denying the contact or exchange and it does
establish a time-line.
>
resp: Agree. This is cause/reason for the words "as a first step" in
my original post. However, E-Mail is probably the WORST timeline,
contact, fact, means of proof. The ability to edit EVERY ITEM of an
e-mails content is the problem. It can be made a little (but only a very
little) more bit helpful if delivery and read receipt functions are
enabled.
>
Fundamentally we've clear points of agreement, but due to another clear
weakness of email, the difference potential between sent intent and
receipt interpretation, clarification becomes prudent.
w
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Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 08:36:58 -0600
From: Donald Hendrix HQMA
Subject: Re: Race results form florida
>Congratats to Nick Bailey From toledo..............wow look at all those
>honda's.............200 honda's total
>amazing!!!!!!
Out of a 260 car count, 200 where Honda's
Anyone see a trend here?
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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 10:07:59 -0500
From: "Bob Bischak"
Subject: Re: Race results form florida
Dennis
Hope Santa got you a new calculator for Christmas! Of the 259 cars, 161
were Hondas and 98 were Deco's...(using the entries posted on the Coast to
Coast report)
- ----------
> From: dennis mccree
> To: XXRacing ; teri abbott ; tad
clegghorn ; russ thompson ;
RKILB5498@aol.com; qmidgets@quartermidgets.com; leon ;
kerr@ergo.msu.edu; keith cookson ; john mitchel
; Joe Kramer ; Joe Dille
; jim philo ; glen p
o'dell ; Hankish, Steve M. ; Don
Roden ; debbie&teri ; Dave Preston
> Subject: Race results form florida
> Date: Saturday, January 01, 2000 5:01 PM
>
> HEAVY GX 160 A MAIN
> FAST TIME: LIZ HITE
> 1. PATRICK CONRAD
> 2. SCOTT SEITHER
> 3. TROY ATKINS
> 4. DEREK NEVILLE
> 5. NICK BAILEY****************
> 6. LIZ HITE
> 7. DUSTY COBB
> 8. MEGAN JENNINGS
> 9. BILL THOMAS
> 10. J.D. WILSON
> 11. KEVIN WYATT
> Congratats to Nick Bailey From toledo..............wow look at all those
> honda's.............200 honda's total
> amazing!!!!!!
>
> Dennis McCree
> Toledo Quartermidgets Novice director
> Driver Corey "The Rocket"McCree
> Honda GX160 powered
> www.thatsracin.koz.com/racing/nwoqmra2000
>
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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 10:50:26 EST
From: QMADAD@aol.com
Subject: Re: Race results form florida
LOL
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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 11:23:44 -0500
From: "The Billings"
Subject: Re: Race results form florida
You are correct Bob 62%,"approx 2 out of every 3 cars were Honda powered!
John Billings
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Bischak
To:
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2000 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: Race results form florida
> Dennis
>
> Hope Santa got you a new calculator for Christmas! Of the 259 cars, 161
> were Hondas and 98 were Deco's...(using the entries posted on the Coast to
> Coast report)
>
> ----------
> > From: dennis mccree
> > To: XXRacing ; teri abbott ; tad
> clegghorn ; russ thompson ;
> RKILB5498@aol.com; qmidgets@quartermidgets.com; leon
;
> kerr@ergo.msu.edu; keith cookson ; john mitchel
> ; Joe Kramer ; Joe Dille
> ; jim philo ; glen p
> o'dell ; Hankish, Steve M. ; Don
> Roden ; debbie&teri ; Dave Preston
>
> > Subject: Race results form florida
> > Date: Saturday, January 01, 2000 5:01 PM
> >
> > HEAVY GX 160 A MAIN
> > FAST TIME: LIZ HITE
> > 1. PATRICK CONRAD
> > 2. SCOTT SEITHER
> > 3. TROY ATKINS
> > 4. DEREK NEVILLE
> > 5. NICK BAILEY****************
> > 6. LIZ HITE
> > 7. DUSTY COBB
> > 8. MEGAN JENNINGS
> > 9. BILL THOMAS
> > 10. J.D. WILSON
> > 11. KEVIN WYATT
> > Congratats to Nick Bailey From toledo..............wow look at all
those
> > honda's.............200 honda's total
> > amazing!!!!!!
> >
> > Dennis McCree
> > Toledo Quartermidgets Novice director
> > Driver Corey "The Rocket"McCree
> > Honda GX160 powered
> > www.thatsracin.koz.com/racing/nwoqmra2000
> >
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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 11:24:00 EST
From: REQMA@aol.com
Subject: Handler's Hangover Race?
Well, Did you get the race in at Baylands? Who did what and how many handlers
were hungover?
Tawnya
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Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 11:58:45 -0500
From: "dennis mccree"
Subject: Re: Race results form florida
i counted off of quartermidgets.com, that dont mean i counted
right.............happy new year bob.............
Dennis McCree
Toledo Quartermidgets Novice director
Driver Corey "The Rocket"McCree
Honda GX160 powered
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- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Bischak"
To:
Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2000 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: Race results form florida
> Dennis
>
> Hope Santa got you a new calculator for Christmas! Of the 259 cars, 161
> were Hondas and 98 were Deco's...(using the entries posted on the Coast to
> Coast report)
>
> ----------
> > From: dennis mccree
> > To: XXRacing ; teri abbott ; tad
> clegghorn ; russ thompson ;
> RKILB5498@aol.com; qmidgets@quartermidgets.com; leon
;
> kerr@ergo.msu.edu; keith cookson ; john mitchel
> ; Joe Kramer ; Joe Dille
> ; jim philo ; glen p
> o'dell ; Hankish, Steve M. ; Don
> Roden ; debbie&teri ; Dave Preston
>
> > Subject: Race results form florida
> > Date: Saturday, January 01, 2000 5:01 PM
> >
> > HEAVY GX 160 A MAIN
> > FAST TIME: LIZ HITE
> > 1. PATRICK CONRAD
> > 2. SCOTT SEITHER
> > 3. TROY ATKINS
> > 4. DEREK NEVILLE
> > 5. NICK BAILEY****************
> > 6. LIZ HITE
> > 7. DUSTY COBB
> > 8. MEGAN JENNINGS
> > 9. BILL THOMAS
> > 10. J.D. WILSON
> > 11. KEVIN WYATT
> > Congratats to Nick Bailey From toledo..............wow look at all
those
> > honda's.............200 honda's total
> > amazing!!!!!!
> >
> > Dennis McCree
> > Toledo Quartermidgets Novice director
> > Driver Corey "The Rocket"McCree
> > Honda GX160 powered
> > www.thatsracin.koz.com/racing/nwoqmra2000
> >
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